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R.G.S. OFFICERS 1982 - 1983
President: Peter Bush, 130 Lattimer Rd., Rochester, NY 14620
Vice Pres. & Prog. Chair: Jean Burr, 45 Hammond St., Roch. NY l46l5
Rec. Sec: Judy Markham, 3494 Brockport-Spencerport Rd., Spencerport, NY 14559
Cor. Sec: Charlene Guyer, 155 Authors Ave., Henrietta, NY 14467
Treas: Robert Hesselberth, 57 Wedgewood Dr., Penfield, NY l4526
Mem. Chair: Helen Berkeley, 50 Old Mill Rd., Rochester, NY 14618

The program of the Rochester Genealogical Society has some exciting new meetings, speakers, mini-workshops, a seminar and the Rochester Sesquicentennial to keep us busy. Our meetings will continue to be held at St. Paul's Episcopal Church (East Ave. & Vick Park B) on the third Thursday of each month, with the exception of Dec., July and August. The mini-workshops start as usual at 7:00 P.M. sharp, the business meeting at 7:30 P.M. and our main program around 8:00 P.M.

The Program Committee of RGS wishes to thank those members who generously contribute their time and effort to the Mini-workshop Series both this past year and the year to come. Sharing our knowledge is the idea behind this part of the genealogy program, so if you have something to share with us, please contact a member of the committee, Barbara Grzymkowski, Loretta Welch, Nancy Kress or Jean Burr...... Thanks again!

The IRISH FAMILY HISTORY GROUP presented a very interesting and informative program to the society this past April on the subject of our Irish ancestors and researching in Ireland. This group is small and informal and meet in the 2nd floor library of Bishop Kearney High School on the 2nd Thursday of the month September thru May, at 7:30 P.M., visitors welcome. More information may be obtained by calling Jean Burr, 865-8067.

The City of Rochester is celebrating its sesquicentennial in 1984, and RGS is joining in the celebration by co-sponsoring a project to honor descendants of Rochester area pioneers.

Certificates will be issued to applicants who show they are descended from persons living in Rochester or its environs in or before 1834. During a similar project at the time of the 1934 Rochester centennial, certificates were issued to more than 9,000 persons from the Rochester area and across the country.

The certificates will be similar in design to the 1934 certificates. They will bear the name of the applicant and pioneer ancestor, and will be suitable for framing. They will feature a colored reproduction of an 1836 lithograph of the Upper Falls, drawn by Rochester artist J. T. Young.

Application forms will be available after January 1, 1984, and more information will be included in the next issue of Hear Ye. The January 1984 meeting of the Society will feature presentations about the pioneer project and the Sesquicentennial celebration.

RGS will co-administer the project with the Rochester Historical Society. Members of both societies will be involved in all phases of the project, including planning and budgeting, preparing forms, processing applications, indexing information and names on the applications, and issuing the certificates. Anyone interested in helping with the project should contact Richard Halsey at 716-586-7387.

"Researching in New York" is the theme of a major genealogical conference to be held in Albany on October 3-5. R.G.S. is co sponsoring the conference together with nine other genealogical societies, the State Museum, State Library, and State Archives.

Each day of the conference opens with a presentation by a panel of noted genealogists, followed by seminars during the remainder of the day. Conference participants can choose among a large number of seminar topics, all of which relate to genealogical research in New York. There will also be an exhibit area with tables manned by genealogical and historical societies and by vendors of books, maps, computers and other genealogical supplies and services.

The conference will be held in the New York State Museum Auditorium and meeting rooms in the Cultural Education Center, all of which are located in the Empire State Plaza Complex in downtown Albany. The conference registration fee is $60 for persons who register after September 1.

Application forms, information about lodging and transportation, and a complete conference program can be obtained by writing to:

RGS President Peter Bush has a limited number of application forms and programs for use by RGS members.

As total registration will be limited to 500 participants, interested persons are urged to apply as soon as possible.

Too often the deluge of newer books literally drown us by sheer volume, not knowing which to buy or read. Forgotten on the shelves repose many older volumes of interest, if we could but recognize them. A prime example of just such a book beacons to the history buff, genealogist and all who enjoy good reading by presenting a glimpse of 18th century Rochester, New York with wit, humor, and insight reminiscent of Mark Twain. Copyrighted in 1947, a Book of the Month selection, Samuel Hopkins Adam's Grandfather Stories recall his 1870's boyhood days in Rochester. Winter and spring would see Samuel along with four cousins, paying their weekly courtesy visit to Grandfather Myron Adams in his comfortable home on South Union Street. Grandfather was a worldly individual and would regale the quintet with tales of the Erie Canal, unusual characters and anecdotes, of and around Rochester.

Summertimes the author dwelled with his somewhat more sophisticated maternal grandfather, Samuel Miles Hopkins D.D., in Auburn or at nearby Owasco Lake, and enjoyed the adventures of the rural clime.

This bright, numerous collection of reminiscences is fun reading so find a copy of Grandfather Stories and relax and enjoy yourself.

Of recent vintage (published 1982), Virginia Tomkiewicz and Shirley Cox Husted's Eight Miles Along The Shore, An Illustrated History of Greece, N.Y. is 206 pages of visual pleasure. Interpretive text accompanies each photo leading the reader back to the days of long ago and of not so long ago. For example, how many remember the Rochester Iron Works, in Charlotte, located north of Stutson St. between Lake Avenue and the Genesee River with the blast furnace and more than a dozen smokestacks needling the sky. At that time, Charlotte was sort of Greece.

This literary time machine contains many and varied items ranging from Lake Ontario to The Little Ridge (Ridge Rd.) and beyond to the banks of the old Erie Canal. A multi-page "time line" chronicles major events in Greece's history. The index gives access to data for over 450 individuals or families. Familiar surnames, preserved on street signs, appear in a list of more than 150 Civil War soldiers. Ghost stories and tall tales, part of any town's heritage, are not forgotten. Uptonville, Ada, Hoosick and Henpeck hamlets of yesteryear existing -- only in history books or the memories of a few of our senior citizens were once part of Greece, largest township in Monroe Co.

Two groups of pictures among so many are my favorite for different reasons. With the Crescent Beach Hotel being raised again after the fire of many years ago, the photograph of the first one is quite appropriate. Waggs Corners at Ridge Rd. and Lake Ave. has seen tenants come and go and has had an occasional facelift, but the building can still be recognized as Waggs Corners. Notice the 1920 prices in the windows.

With this volume in hand some morning make a pilgrimage around Greece comparing yesterday's pictures with the present -- it will be a time to be enjoyed.

Another book published just a few years ago by the Orleans County Historical Association is recommended for just plain enjoyment and for its genealogical content.

Farmer, teacher, historian -- J. Howard Pratt,in "Memories of Life on the Ridge," interestingly chronicles for his readers the fun, the routine of farm life as the 19^th century draws to a close -- an era when mechanization was rapidly altering things, down on the farm.

At the time of publication, Mr. Pratt had lived his 4 score and some odd years in the family homestead on the Ridge (route 104) 4 miles from Gaines in Orleans County, New York. Nehemiah Pratt, his grandfather, settled in Orleans Co. in 1818, a descendant of the first Pratt who landed near Boston in 1623. Mary E. Britt, his mother, was the daughter of Curtis and Loretta Davis of Madison Co. and the line continues back through Seth Brett, a Rev. War soldier,to John Alden and Priscilla Mullen and John Winslow and Mary Chilton of Mayflower fame. This maternal side also includes Chapin, Wood, Rawson, Wilson, Perone, Thurston and Hooker. Neighbors up and down the road from his farm are identified with comments, anecdotes, and at times a short genealogy.

An eight page index pinpoints specific families, places, as well as general information in this 216 page paperback. Easy flowing narrative with some pictures provides the reader a verbal picture of country life at the turn of the century. An interesting and informative book well recommended to you.

On Saturday, September 24, RGS will once again sponsor a one-day seminar on genealogical research, featuring four lectures by officials of the New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS).

The seminar will be held in Hubbell Auditorium of Hutchinson Hall at the University of Rochester, River Campus. The program will commence with registration from 9-10:00 A.M., followed by two morning lectures, lunch, and two afternoon lectures. Free parking is available at a nearby University parking lot.

The speakers will include Dr. Ralph Crandall, Director of the NEHGS and Editor of the NEHGS Register, who will speak about "The NEHGS Library: Convenience and Collections" and "Urban Genealogy: Big City Searches." A presentation on "Archival Sources for Genealogical Resources in New England, Western New York, and Western Reserve" will be given by Donald Pielsen, Associate Reference Librarian of the NEHGS. The third speaker will be Gary Roberts, NEHGS Director of Research, who will discuss "Gateway to the West: Migration Patterns from New England to Western New York and Western Reserve."

This is the third such seminar sponsored by RGS in recent years. The total cost of the program is $15, which includes the registration fee and refreshments during coffee breaks. The fee can be paid at the door or by check at the September 15 meeting of RGS.

Following the afternoon program, a reception will be held for all seminar participants and lecturers at Woodside, the headquarters of the Rochester Historical Society, at 485 East Avenue.

For additional information, call any RGS officer or David Miles (phone 442-5525), who is coordinating arrangements for the seminar.

The following letter and information was received recently from Ellen Hahn Grabb

In addition, the priest who sent the registers wrote, "It would be of interest to me to find out what happened to the families which emigrated to America. I would be thankful for a report." I also would be grateful for any information I could receive on any of these families that I could pass on to him. From a letter that Katharina Eckstein wrote to the people in Weisenbach, it appears that Ignatz Krieg, Michael Fortenbacher, Karl Krieg, Armand Gerstner, Wilhelm Grossman, Friedrich Dörrer, and Katharina settled in Rochester; another letter from Joseph Klumpp in Readingen PA (Reading?) mentions that he, Xavier Schnadel, and Ludwig Krief settled there, also Anton Gerstner and 2 children).

**WEISENBACH REGISTER**
People from this local congregation who have emigrated to America on 19 December 1851
NAME - AGE	NAME - AGE
Ignatz Krieg - 45 wife Rosalia Krieg - 45 Valentine - 28 Ignatz - 23 Konstantine - 22 Agatha - 17 Johann - 9 Marianna - 15 Michael Fortenbacher - 42 wife Agatha Gerstner - 39 Marianna - 15 Helena - 13 Karl - 11 Luigard - 6 Karl Krieg, painter - 48 wife Franciska Klumpp - 40 Valentine - 17 Theresa - 15 Franciska - 13 Barnabas - 10 Marianna - 8 Maria Josepha - 6 Helena - 3 Johanna (died 24 Dec.) - ½ Wilhelm Grossman - 32 wife Theresa Grossman - 32 Klara- 9 Maximilian - 7 Adolf - 5 Emmy Maier, single - 44 Sigmund - 24 Christian - 20 Anton Gerstner, widower - 63 Konrad - 24 Franciska - 26 Ludwig Krieg, single - 50 ----- Gerstner, single - 45 Johann ----- , single - 37 Cazilia Schnadel, single - 35 Fridolin - 4 Theresa Schmit, single - 39 Wilhelm - 9 Katharina - 5 Mathias Krieg - 50 wife Franciska Reh - 60 Joseph - 26 Theresa, daughter of Gertraut - 10	Armand Gerstner, day laborer - 28 wife Constanz Mitzel - 23 Joseph - 3 Xavier Schnadel, coal burner - 45 wife Constanz Huber - 45 Maria Josepha - 23 Viktoria - 19 Eupfrentina - 17 Katharina Eckstein, widow of Franz George Krieg - 40 Wilhelm Gerstner - 21 Franz Carl - 19 Hiazind - 16 Anton - 12 Elisabeta - 14 August - 9 Ludwig - 45 wife Johanna Geratner - 24 Wilhelm - 16 Moritz - 9 Monika - 7 Ludwig - 3 Friedrich Dörrer, widower of Katharina Gerstner - 45 Gertraut - 18 Joseph - 14 John George Krieg - 39 wife Bernhardina Gerstner - 30 Nikolaus - 6 Zibrian - ¼ Joseph Klumpp, weaver - 37 Karolina Gmelauer - 43 Maria Josepha - 11 Karl - 9 Wilhelm - 3 Amalia - ¼ Ambrose Krieg - 48 wife Theresa - 43 Valentine - 21 Viktoria Krieg - 11 Roman - 6 Ambrose - 4 Katharina - 1 ----- Gerstner - 37 Justina Geratner, wife - 35 Agnes - 7 Ansalm -----, single - 27

**LANGENBRAND REGISTER**
Families who have emigrated to America 9 Nov. 1851
Husband	Wife	Children
Valentine Merkel	M. Anna Gerstner	6
Valentine Kimpal	Ottilia Merkel	8
Augustine Merkel		6
Ambrose Merkel		10
Joh. Adam Merkel, widower		6
Elias Fritz	Valentina Merkel	2
Leopold Merkel	Valentina Schmitt	6
Philip	M. Anna	5
Joseph Schank	not given	2
This family emigrated to America in December 1852.

INTERESTING
From Federation of Genealogical Societies Newsletter Dec. 1952, Dr. Carl Weatherby's column.

More Americans trace their ancestry to Germany than any other country. A census study shows 29 percent of people surveyed are at least partly of German descent. Irish are the second largest group at 24%, English at 22 percent are third. Eleven percent say they're just plain American. (See U.S. News and World Report 24 May 1982 p. 14.)

Charlene Guyer (a member of R.G.S.) is presenting a course encompassing the ins and outs of climbing your family tree, what records are available and where to find them. The course will be held at Sperry High School, Lehigh Station Road, Henrietta, N.Y. on Monday nights, 7:00-9:00 P.M. for six weeks beginning 19 Sept. 1983. The cost is approximately $11.00. Registration is a must and will take place Tuesday, Sept. 6 & Wednesday Sept. 7 at Sperry High School and Thursday, Sept. 5 & Friday, Sept. 9 at Market Place Mall. (Contact Charlene @ 359-1091)

Thursday 15 Sept.	Mini-workshop - Researching At the New England Historic Genealogical Society Library Program - "How I Found My Ancestors" by Major Lyman Barry. Major Barry is a RGS member who lives in Nunda NY, is a teacher of Genealogy at Geneseo SUNY, has a wide range of interests and has been doing family research since 1920!
Saturday 24 Sept.	Seminar by the New England Historic Genealogical Society. See page 5 for details.
Thursday 20 Oct.	Mini-workshop - Understanding the Calendar. Program - "Granite Mountain" & Researching at the Rochester LDS Church. Mr. Harmston will show us the film "Granite Mountain" which depicts the Mormon storage facility of microfilmed records and Gale Harmston will tell us how to use the Kreag Rd. LDS library.
Thursday 17 Nov.	Mini-workshop - Research at the New York State Library. Program - "Treasure Trove" - Members are asked to bring in and share their genealogical treasures, be it an old letter, a Bible, document, picture, diary, scrapbook, sampler or any item which played an important part in their family history research. (I can't wait for this one!)
Thursday 19 Jan.	Mini-workshop - "Finding Your Pioneer Ancestor" Program - "Rochester 150" This is a short film of Rochester for the past 150 years presented by a member of the Sesquicentennial Committee, "Rochester 150" Inc. This will be our Rochester birthday party and the start of our Pioneer Project.

LOOK FERGE GENTZ KINDE LONG	Seeking information on descendants of the following, all children of Louis Kinde born 1823, died 23 Aug. 1900: born in Rochester NY - Frederick C. Kinde b ca 1861, m. Tillanda Long; Lucy Kinde b 1868, m Reuben J. cook on Aug. 20, 1889: Annie Edith Kinde b 1874, m John Ferge: Minnie Kinde b 1878, m Henry Gentz on Nov. 12, 1891.
KINDE WHITE	Seeking parentage for Johanna White b 1827, d 1905 in Sebewaing, Mich. m in Rochester NY; Wilhelm Kinde b 1825, d 1914 in Sebewaing, Mich. First four children: William, John W., Anna and August b Rochester NY 1850 - 1856.
KINDE STEIGMAN	Need parentage of Mary Steigman b 1841, d 9 March 1904 at Rochester NY, m Louis Kinde, b 1823 d 23 Aug. 1900.
LODDINGTON REMINGTON	Need any information on Ozro Post Remington b 1825, d 31 Oct. 1908. Had son Scott who m Anna Cora Loddington b 7 Sept. 1866 and d 5 Sept. 1918. Ozro possibly lived in Rochester NY. Scott Remington resided in Trumansburg, NY.
KINDE KLEIN GOEDDERTZ MEYER NOLLER	Seeking information on family of Otto and Lucy Goeddertz who resided Buffalo, NY. Need birth/death dates of children: Lulu, August, Henry and Emma who m Ed Noller. Know that Noller's had two daughters and also resided in Buffalo, NY. Looking for family information of siblings of Otto Goeddertz residing in Rochester NY: Bertha who m Louis Meyer; Lydia who m. Arthur Klein. Have complete genealogy for Carl Goeddertz who m. Anna M. Kinde.
Anne T. Rehbach, 300 List Ave., Rochester, NY 14617

PAINE	Roswell Porter Paine b ca 28 Aug. 1791 NY also Eber Paine, both of Penfield NY ca 1812 to the 1830's. Were they brothers? Need birthplace and parents.
Stanley Ross, 12642 Iron Mt. Rd., Redding, CA 96001

HUNGERFORD COBB	Need maiden name of the wife of Harmon Hungerford b Madison Co. NY about 1808; resided in Savannah, Wayne Co in 1840 and in Brighton, Monroe Co NY in 1850 where he died in 1862. Was he married more than once? His children were Leroy, William and Newell, who married Lottie M. Cobb; all are buried in Brighton NY.
Sue A. Kratsch, 1388 Summit Circle, W. St. Paul, MN 55118

WALSH STAUTTS PALMER DICKINSON HARRIS	Need all data on Permelia Walsh of early 19th century Mendon NY. Need parentage of Fannie Maria Stautts b about 1783, Bound Brook N.J. and m Jeremiah Gates Palmer in early 1800's. Lived Honeoye Falls NY. She died in Mendon, NY 16 June 1863. Need all data on Sanford E. (zra?) Dickinson m Angelina Harris (need all data on her) in the 1830's in Mendon, NY. Sanford probably came from Victor NY.
Erwin Palmer, 20 Gregory St., Oswego, NY 13126

McKEE STEWART	Seeking info on James McKee, b ca 1810, Monaghan Co. Ireland, emigrated to NY in 1532 m Eliza (Stewart?) d 20 Nov. 1569 in Rochester NY.
Lawrence E. Britt, 2301 Collingwood Rd., Alexandria, VA 22308

HUFF DOBBIN BASQUIN McCLANAHAN McLENAHAN	Desire info on parents, siblings of Bergen Huff and anything about his wife Jane Dobbin who moved Rochester area on way to Ohio 1810/1825. Looking for children of Peter Basquin and his wife _________ McClanahan/McLanahan who were in the Rochester area ca 1790/1800 on their way to Ohio.
Anderson Allyn, P.O. Box 67, Chardon, Ohio 44024