Hear Ye Volume 12; Number 3
Fall 1991

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The President's Message

Seneca Park Walking down the trail in Seneca Park behind Bill Davis was a sight-and-sound experience in local history. As he led us northward from the picnic pavilion where we had gathered, to the path on the east bank of the Genesee River, he commented about the early Seneca presence there. Their imprint had been light - they left only their names on the land.

We paused in a picturesque spot (6 mi. north of the heart of the city of Rochester, 2 mi. south of Lake Ontario) beside a stream which flowed from its underground course beneath suburban Irondequoit to cascade in rippling waterfalls down to the River far below. Bill gently eased our thoughts back to the days of the ubiquitous French who had not only seen this place but left us words on paper. The scout Étienne Brule knew of it in 1610. Champlain mapped the Lake, River and Bay in 1612. In August 1669, LaSalle and his party entered the area in canoes looking for fur trade routes. In May 1721 Pierre de Charlevoix stopped here and wrote a full description of "Casconchiagon," Seneca for "river-of-falls-upon-it." (The rare 73-vol. Jesuit Relations exist today in a Rochester library). Francois Pouchot was here 60 years later and mentioned in his "Memoiries" the River which "has a much longer course into the interior than any other on this coast... which has three falls with banks on the sides almost as fine as those of Niagara." (The excessively rare original of his work (Yverdon, 1781) is also in the library of the Rochester Historical Society).

Capt. Lt. Thomas Davies of the Royal Regiment of Artillery sketched each of the waterfalls on the Genesee, on location, sometime during the French and Indian War period, 1755 - 1763. These earliest pictures of the falls are valuable, as H.L. Fairchild pointed out, for they depict "the normal river flow, 200 years ago, before there had been any human interference with the forest and the river. The falls are now (1926) changed by utilization..." (Yes, the prints came back to Rochester from London).

That human interference followed closely on the heels of the land agents and surveyors of the 1790's. In 1789, Ebenezer Allen had come from New Jersey to build a flour mill, taking advantage of the 14-ft. drop at Middle Falls. By 1796, Oliver Phelps & Nathaniel Gorham were selling land (purchased from Massachusetts) to settlers like Gideon King, Zadock Granger and Elijah Kent, who built their cabins on the west side of the River almost across from where we stood. That early settlement was King's Landing. There on 5 December 1800 was born Arabella Granger to Mr. and Mrs. Eli Granger - the 1st known recorded white female birth on the Genesee.

Ten years later, on 11 May 1810, Col. Nathaniel Rochester, his wife Sophia (Beatty) and family of 12 children came from Maryland to the Genesee Country. Settlement grew around the Middle Falls area and spread out in all directions. In time, the "flour" city became the "flower" city - and you have read the rest of the story, for Rochester's history has been written by several very able historians.

However, the impact of local history upon genealogy is felt strongest by the family historian who stands on the ground where his family once lived, and listens to a Bill Davis, who knows the story. Then, it is not just Local History, or his-story. It becomes OUR story. Our families settled at the falls of the Genesee... when? why? where did they come from? We walked quietly along the trail back to our parked automobiles, that serene midsummer evening of our annual picnic, laden with new thoughts.

Ruth Metzler

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RGS has New Meeting Place

In September, the Rochester Genealogical Society will begin meeting at Asbury First United Methodist Church, 1050 East Avenue. Asbury has ample off-street parking and is more suited to other needs of RGS. Fellowship Hall, the meeting room, will provide more space for the various activities of RGS and it has a hearing loop. There is a handicapped parking area, a ramp to the foyer of the church, two wheel chairs, and an elevator to Fellowship Hall.

The main entrance from the parking area is via the Cloister (see below). Turn right and take the stairs to the lower level. Proceed straight ahead to Fellowship Hall.

Below is a rough drawing that locates the parking, stairs, elevator, and Fellowship Hall.

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1991 Fall Meeting Programs

The Rochester Genealogical Society will meet the third Thursday of each month (except December, July, and August) at Asbury First United Methodist Church, 1050 East Avenue (just west of Granger Place). The mini-workshops start at 7 PM (except as noted for special programs), followed by the business meeting at 7:30 PM and the main program at approximately 8:00 PM. Visitors are very welcome. This year the mini-workshops will focus on Researching in States and Countries.

Thursday, 19 September 1991

Mini-Workshop: Researching along the New York-Vermont Border by Brian Burkhart

Main Program: Rochester Celebrities of Yesterday by Don Shilling

Thursday, 17 October 1991

Mini-Workshop: Researching in Canada (primarily Ontario Province) by Marianne Hesselberth

Main Program: Immigration from Germany by Eugene Camann, Author of the book, "Uprooted from Prussia and Transplanted in America"

Thursday, 21 November 1991

Mini-Workshop: Researching in Ohio by Paul & Mary Valentine

Main Program: A Pilgrimage to World War I Military Cemeteries in Europe by Al Mancini

-- Marianne & Bob Hesselberth

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Member Projects and Activities
Julie Steitz

Julie Steitz current hospitality chairperson and member of RGS since 1975 served two terms as president and was concurrently in charge of name tags, refreshments, and the up for grabs table which she initiated. She has served on the nominating committee and Board of Directors for approximately six years and been responsible for the surrounding societies report for about the same length of time. She also served on the program committee for two years and has presented several of the mini workshop programs for the society. She is a regular contributor to the Hear Ye.

Julie is very active as a volunteer in the Penfield Local History Room and is there most Tuesday evenings to assist persons researching their family history. She co-chaired a committee responsible for awarding Pioneer Certificates to descendants of early settlers of Penfield.

She has been vice president of Palatines to America, a national organization, and is currently on the Board of Directors and in charge of their western N.Y. relations. She is also currently treasurer of the Genealogical Round Table of Rochester, the Penfield Heritage Association, and the Dayton's Corners School House Association. She recently was elected to the Board of Directors of the newly formed New York State Council of Genealogical Organizations (NYSCOGO).

She has assisted physically and financially in the renovating of several private ancestral family cemeteries in various places in the Northeastern U.S.

Here is a list of indexes she has compiled for Penfield, Monroe Co. N.Y.:

  1. the account book of Michael Jump 1849-1873.
  2. early East Penfield news clippings.
  3. vital records from various early newspapers.
  4. I Remember When... Penfield, by Verna K. Brahler (name & place index).
  5. Images of Early Penfield, by Maude E. Frank.
  6. Mortgages and encroachments.
  7. list of Revolutionary War veterans.
  8. Oakwood Cemetery Burial Permits.
  9. Methodist Episcopal Church records (late 19th century).
  10. trustees & treasurers books of Smith Cemetery.
  11. 1855, 1865, 1875, 1880, 1905, 1915, 1925 census records.
  12. Rev. J. T. Humphrey's Diary (M. E. Church 1878-1894).
  13. Rev. Abel Haskell's Diary (Baptist Church 1860-1865).
  14. Women's Missionary Society (M. E. Church 1899-1903).
Milford Spencer

Milford Spencer has been a member of RGS for 47 years and was treasurer for many years. He is a Life Member of the Spencer Family Assoc. of America which started in 1978 with his Spencer notes. He has assisted with the indexing of a Spencer genealogy and has been active in Spencerport local history projects.

Over the years Milford has collected photos and slides of cemetery stones and has given lectures using these slides. He has given several lectures to RGS.

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Funeral List from Diary of Rev. J. T. Humphrey

Rev. Humphrey was minister to the Methodist Episcopal Church in Penfield, Monroe Co., N.Y. The original diary, in the hands of a descendant, was photo copied by the historian of the Methodist Church and given to the Penfield Local History library. It is presumed that if another locality is not specifically listed, the "place" is Penfield (continued from Spring 1991).

Julie Steitz

Date Name Age Place
1886
Feb. 2 William Spencer 30 C_____[?]
--- Grace Boon 16 Spring Bloods
March 27 Morris Brown 78 Springwater
May 4 Mrs. Pierce 70 Springwater
Dec. 21 O. V. Mills 67 Tabors Cor.
1887
June 16 Fred W. Gilbert 20 Canadice & Richmond
June 27 Willis Clark 68 Sparta - Liberty
June 28 Mrs. Slingerland 74 Canadice
June 29 Mrs. Bidte [?] 93 Christian Church
July 2 Mrs. Cooks -- Christian Church
July 5 infant of Mr. Coles   Canadice
Sept. 2 Loretta Purcello 70 Canadice (Christ'n Ch)
Oct. 26 Mrs. Stinble (Polly Ann) 78 Canadice
Dec. 15 Cora Badger 20 Canadice
Aug. -- Mrs. Swartey 62 Canadice Lake
Dec. 26 James Crister 74 Stoney Brook Dansville
1888
Feb. 9 Catherine Thayer 76 Canadice
Feb. 12 Mr. Needham 82 Sparta
March 3 Mrs. Fenton 76 Van Dorn
March 4 Mr. Harry Brown 78 Canadice
Apr. 6 Lydia Smith 19 Canadice
May 7 Mrs. Lidia Barber 92 Tabors Corner
May 20 Mr. Spencer 83 Canadice
May 23 Soloman Case 82 Webster
May 27 Jothan Coykendole 83 B. Hill Canadice
May 2 Mrs. Hartson 60 Canadice
Aug. 27 Hattie Dalrimple 27 Canadice
Nov. 18 John Bygraves 54 P. Ch.
bur. Mt.Hope
1889
Jan. 21 John D. Scoville 80 Ch. Penfield
Jan. 22 Florence C. Nichols 27 House Penfield
March 14 Jane Fellows 70 House Penfield
March 20 Henry Sutton 30 Church Penfield
Apr. 7 Mrs. B. W. Crippen -- --
Apr. 26 Mrs. Menghar 30 Penfield
Aug. 29 Mrs. Newman 70 Grove. School House
Apr. 10 Mrs. -- 75 near Bra Thompson
1890
Jan. 5 Minard Schutt 27 Penfield
Feb. 12 Inf. of Peter Winnie 6 mo Penfield
March 21 Mrs. Fielding 60 P. Center
Apr. 1 Mrs. Schutt 66 P. ch
May 12 Emma[?] Fielding 33/73? P. Center at home
June 16 F. Plant's child 6 at the house
July 22 Mrs. Derrenbacher 54 at church
Aug. 6 Mrs. May Schutt 88 at ch P.
Sept. 17 Edwin Butterfield 62 at his home
Sept. 19 Elizabeth Nichols 63 at church
Dec. 11 Chas. Sutter 46 at church
1891
Jan. 29 Mrs. --   at the Grave
  Anthony Mindnich 51 Pen. Ch
Feb. 12 Mrs. Fowler 87 Prayer at Dr. Bochman
Feb. 16 Jane McGuire 55 at house
Feb. 21 Mrs. Deitz
(Mother of Mrs. Connel)
   
March 22 Phineas Knapp 84 house
March 23 Mr. Lane -- at his house
Apr. 9 Peter Winnie 26 at church
Apr. 21 Albt. Raymond 77 ch.
Apr. 30 W. B. Biggs 21 ch.
May 12 Frankie Plant 3 yr 8 mo at home
May 13 Cynthia Wallace 78 Lower Dugway & [?]
June -- Mrs. Judge Hawley -- at Mr. Parmeters
July 29 Katie Derenbecker 21 at ch.
Aug. 4 Rev. Porter McKinstry 80 at home
Aug. 6 Mrs. Beatty 49 House
Aug. 10 Mr. Keller 52 at house
Aug. 11 Miss Lillie Connell 25 at the grave
Sept. 13 Sally Ann Raymond 77 Church
Oct. 27 Frank Clark 57 at his house
Nov. 22 Roxanna Mather 81 at Mrs. Rouls
Nov. 27 Wm. Nichols' child church
Dec. 21 Mr. Hulburt 79 Oak Tavern
Dec. 28 Chas. Fellows 75 at house
1892
Jan. 6 Mrs. Nye (from Mich) 62 at grave
Jan. 10 Mrs. Lewis (Webster) 58 at the grave
Jan. 20 Florence Ammon 11-8 at home
Apr. 10 Mrs. Waldron 62 at her home
June 12 Mrs. Winnie 80 ch.
June 26 Richard Embury 84 home
July 29 Mr. Schermerhorn 81 home
Sept. 12 Chas. Keith 24 From Station to grave
Oct. 10 Mr. White's child Fairport
Dec. 6 Alonzo Cook 66 Penfield - house
Dec. 23 Paul Derritter 78 House
(continued in next issue)

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NYSCOGO News

NYSCOGO Constitutional Convention

Julie Steitz and Carter Livermore represented the RGS as voting delegates at the New York State Council of Genealogical Societies' Constitutional Convention of 27 delegates at Johnstown/Fonda, NY, 13-14 April 1991. A seven-member steering committe formed at the December 1990 meeting of delegates in Fulton, presented its drafted Constitution and By-laws which were amended by the delegates.

On the second day of the Convention, the delegates voted unanimously to adopt the amended Constitution and By-laws and to elect the slate of Officers and Trustees nominated, thus "breathing life into" the new organization to be know as The NY State Council of Genealogical Organizations (NYSCOGO).

The newly elected Officers and Trustees held their first meeting directly after adjournment of the Convention. Julie Steitz is one of the new Trustees.

The purpose of NYSCOGO is to promote an interest in genealogy, facilitate communication between researchers and genealogists, provide a forum for local and state-wide concerns of genealogists and to further genealogical knowledge.

RGS
NYS Vital Records

Since the September 1990 move of the NYS vital records section from the Empire State Plaza to 733 Broadway in Albany, the vital records index can no longer be searched in person and all requests for records must be made by mail. The processing time has been from six to 14 months.

At the NYSCOGO meeting in April, Roger Ritzmann of the NYS Archives reported that the archives and the Dept. of Health are negotiating the transfer of the vital records index to the Archives. An agreement is expected to be reached soon.

In addition, the vital records section is trying to automate their request procedures and eventually inprove responses to all requests.

In the meantime, if you know the jurisdiction where an event occurred, the best strategy is to request a copy of the record from the local Registrar of Vital Statistics.

NYSCOGO Newsletter
Genealogy Fact Sheets

The 12 printed one-page guides to the state library will now cost you $1 each or $7 a set if you order them through the mail. These deal with military records, wills, census records, loyalists records, adoptees, tracing your immigrant ancestor, etc. Ask for the Genealogy Fact Sheets and enclose a check made out to the NYS Library, Genealogical Reference Service at the Cultural Education Center, Empire State Plaza, Albany, NY 12230.

These reference sheets are still free when you visit the library.

NYSCOGO Newsletter


Bookmark

The summer 1991 issue of Bookmark, a State Education Department quarterly, is devoted to many facets of genealogy and family history in New York. The price is $4 and can be ordered from Documents/Gift and Exchange, New York State Library, Cultural Education Center, Empire State Plaza, Albany, NY 12230. Make checks payable to the NYS Library.

NYSCOGO Newsletter

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Civil War Directory

A computerized directory of the Civil War's 3.5 million soldiers is being compiled by the Federation of Genealogical Societies and the Genealogical Society of Utah.

When complete, it will be installed in the 28 Civil War sites administered by the National Park Service. Visitors will then be able to check whether an ancestor fought in the war.

The directory will list soldiers by name, home state and regiment along with information on the 7,000 regiments and some of the 10,500 battles and skirmishes. It will also provide where soldiers are buried in the 11 Civil War cemeteries.

The system is expected to be activated by the fall of 1994.

The New York Times

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The Computer Interest Group

The new RGS Computer Interest Group has generated a lot of interest bringing together an active and enthusiastic group of individuals with various degrees of expertise. Between 25 and 30 people have attended the first meetings held during the summer.

Thus far there has been a great deal of sharing of information and experiences. Topics have included various hardware and software, bulletin boards, use of computers and video and audio recordings at family reunions, and publishing family histories.

The group is examining future projects which might include indexing death notices in the Rochester City Directories.

Anyone interested in joining is welcome to attend the monthly meetings at the Irondequoit Library (Helen McGraw Branch), East Ridge Rd. Please contact Jim Hall, 716 265-9514, for more information.

Jim Hall

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Halbert's Latest Twist To Their Old Scam

by James L. Swarts

We recently discovered in our mail that those professional genealogical flim-flam artists from Bath, Ohio have put a new twist on their old snake medicine routine with a pitch from a supposed same surname individual for the same old phoney book they have been pushing for years.

For those new to genealogy who may not be familiar with Halbert's of Bath, Ohio ( and their many pseudonyms) we provide a little background: For many years this company has been selling books it purports to be genealogies or family histories of almost every surname in the telephone book. All of their books are the same and include some basic genealogical research information and very elementary history lessons followed by pages of blank family group sheets with names and addresses of persons of the same surname that have been extracted from numerous phone books around the country. They then advise you to write to these persons who might, or might not, be related to you. All this bound in hard cover for $27.50 plus shipping and handling.

In 1985 Sharon Taylor and Halbert's Inc. signed a consent agreement with the United States Postal Service "to refrain from soliciting money or property through the mail" after receiving a cease and desist order from the Postal Service Judicial Officer. In 1988 the Postal Service filed a petition against them alleging breach of the 1985 consent agreement. The respondents chose not to contest the complaint and again signed a consent agreement by which they agreed "to refrain from soliciting... under any name, through any corporation, or through any other device." So much for the power of consent agreements.

Anyway, with their current offering I received a letter supposedly written by one James M. Swarts whose address is c/o Halbert's in Bath, Ohio. Even if such a person exists, the letter is signed by William C. Forman over the typed name "James M. Swarts, i.a." (i.a. = in absentia). The title for this book is The World Book of (Surname). In 1988 they were using the title (Surname) Immigrants and Their New World Descendants. Although they may have changed the name, the game's the same.

Aside from everything else wrong with this offering was the fact the letter was addressed to the name I use for my telephone listing, not my correct name. Of course, that was the same mistake with their 1988 letter which I still have in my files. Believe it or not, the two letters are almost identical except for the change of letterhead, the title of the book, and a price increase.

So fellow genealogists, beware! "They're back!" Like the proverbial bad penny. I strongly recommend anyone receiving one of these mailing to either trash it or send it to the Postal Inspector requesting enforcement of the previous consent agreements. Whatever you do, don't waste you money on any offer from Halbert's.

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Genealogical Research Trip To Washington, D.C. Thurs. 31 Oct - Sun. 3 Nov 1991

Interested in doing a little ancestor sleuthing? Come join us for a repeat of our wonderful trip to Washington a few years ago. It is time to revisit the National Archives, D.A.R. Library and the Library of Congress. Projected expenses for one person traveling by chartered bus (which will provide some transfers in Washington), in a hotel room with double occupancy, with incidental taxes and fees included, but no meals will be approximately $290. This is based on 20 people. If we have a maximum of 35 participants, the cost will be reduced. If you wish a single room, please add $115 to the above cost. Our lodging in Washington will be at the Hotel Washington, 15th St. at Penna. Ave. NW. If you have any questions, please call me at 244-3072.

DEADLINE FOR SIGNING UP IS 28 SEPTEMBER 1991.

Please confirm your reservation by mailing the tear-off below with your deposit check to:
Helen H. Berkeley, 50 Old Mill Road, Rochester, N.Y. 14618

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Queries
COLDREN, PLIMPTON: Seeking information on Elizabeth (Betsy) Coldren who married Moses Adams Plimpton 6 December 1808; probably in Benton, Yates County, NY. They lived in West Bloomfield, Ontario County NY after their marrage.

George A. Hood #506, 7032 Darnoch Way, West Hills, CA 91307.

KELLY: Irish Catholics to Sweden, Riga & Wheatland Twps., Monroe Co. and Bergen, Genesee Co. by 1860: Bernard mar. Catherine Dermody c. 1858; William mar. Margaret Reilly c. 1858; Hugh mar. Mary McCartney c. 1871; Frank mar. Mary McEnany 1856; James mar. Margaret Hendrick; Edward mar. Mary; John; Thomas; 2nd Hugh mar. Margaret c. 1853.
Appear to be two sets of brothers, cousins to each other, plus uncles. Possibly from Co. Louth, Ire.

Steve Denney #708, 620 S. Idaho, Butte, Mont. 59701.

COTTER: Seeking information or anyone researching the Cotter line. William Cotter, from Ireland, b. 13 Nov 1793; d. 20 Dec 1883, m. Alice B., b. 25 Dec 1797, d. 11 Mar 1900; both buried Monroe County. William Barney Cotter m. Mary L. 1859-1926. Charles William Cotter b. 21 June 1889, d. 24 Jan 1964, m. 6 Apr 1912 Mary Caroline Edwards; among their children: Adrian Edwards Cotter.

Carol W. Cotter, Mrs. Adrian E. Cotter, P.O. Box 56, Skyland, NC 28776.

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New Prison Records Guide

The State Archives has recently published a 52-page guide to its large collection of records from the state prison system. It describes administrative and operational records, dating from 1797. But nearly two-thirds of the guide is devoted to inmate case files and other summary information on inmates.

Case files document, often in great detail, the background, crimes, confinements and parole of over 80,000 men and women. Access to some of the records is restricted and may be permitted only upon application to and approval by the State Archives.

Copies of A Guide to Records of the Department of Correctional Services in the New York State Archives may be obtained by contacting the State Archives and Records Administration, 11D40 Cultural Education Center, Albany, NY 12230.

State Archives newsletter

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Local Grant

Among the 28 grants form the New York Documentary Heritage Program and supported by the National Historical Publications and Records Commission is $6,982 to the Research Foundation of SUNY on behalf of SUNY Brockport and the Monroe County Historian's Office.

The funds are to survey and develop a plan for the systemic collection of historical records relating to the history of blacks in Monroe County.

State Archives newsletter

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RGS Officers 1991 - 1992
Directors:  Julie Steitz (1992) & Bob Gustafson (1991)
President:  Ruth Metzler
Co-Vice Pres. & Program Chairpersons:  Marianne & Bob Hesselberth
Recording Secretary:  Jeanne Wackerow
Corresponding Secretary:  David M. Serianni
Treasurer:  Herb Grabb
Membership Chairperson: Richard Halsey
Activity Chairpersons
Other Society Liaison:  Deborah Barnes
Book Raffle:  Charles Sumner
DAR Liaison:  Dorothy Bailey
Hospitality:  John & Frances Thirtle
Name Tags:  Julie Steitz
Tape Library:  Carter Livermore
Publicity:  Bob Gustafson
HEARYE co-Editors:  Judy Markham & Jim Paprocki

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