Hear Ye Volume 14; Number 2
Spring 1993

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RGS Member Discovers Old Church Records

Locke Church How many times have we stumbled across a family Bible, an old diary or a ledger of yellowing records while browsing through a collection of old papers for sale?

And how many times have we wandered away, wondering how anyone could have let such valuable genalogical records slip through their fingers?

RGS member Bob Rowe #790 didn't wander away.

Last December, while browsing at the Yankee Peddler Bookstore at the Village Gate, he discovered what he immediately recognized as a small treasure: the original church records of the Locke (Cayuga Co.) Presbyterian/Congregational Church.

It was a small book, about 5 by 7, containing essentially all the records of the church from its founding in 1818 until it closed in 1836. The original cover had disappeared and the pages were coming loose, but it was otherwise intact.

"My first reaction was: why was this available?" Bob says. "And my immediate concern was for the safety of the book -- the pages were beginning to fall out."

Fortunately, the book had been discovered by the right person. Bob Rowe is a retired Methodist minister and for the past few years has been dedicated to seeking out and preserving church records. His focus has been on Presbyterian records.

He immediately called the Genesee Presbytery, believing they might be interested in acquiring the book. But he was told it wasn't in their jurisdiction and suggested he call the Presbytery in Syracuse.

He tried there, but they said it wasn't their area. Try Susquehanna. But no, Susquehanna didn't come up that far he was told. Try Geneva. Again no, Geneva didn't come down that far.

And no one offered the $91 needed to purchase the book.

"Apparently the church, which is in the southern tip of Cayuga County, was in a kind of no-mans-land," Bob laughs now.

So he took his story to the DAR, where he was speaking on the preservation of church records, and announced his intent to raise the money to purchase the book. He turned to the Kodak Genealogy Society and the RGS (whose membership contributed $53).

Through the combined of genealogists in the Rochester area, he raised all but $2.10 of what he needed.

After acquiring the book, he photo-copied the pages and then placed it in an archival sleeve. Working from the photo copies, he is transcribing and indexing the book.

The book contains meeting records, as well as vital records for its membership. It even includes an apparent adoption. In this time period when no other vital records exist, this is priceless to the genealogist.

Just as important, he points out, "are the letters of transfer scattered throughout -- the exact date when people joined or left the place they came from or went to."

They primarily originated from Vermont, Massachusetts and New Hampshire, he says, and moved to Jamestown, Buffalo or other parts of western NY.

Bob also discovered that these records seem to have disappeared before. A historian in 1858 wrote that they were "lost." But at some point after the church's 1836 closing, they found their way to the Cayuga County Historical Society, Bob learned later.

And when the society decided to concentrate its holdings on the Auburn area, where it is headquartered, the book dealer was able to purchase the book. He had held onto it for several years before offering it for sale.

Meanwhile, Bob has checked with area historians as well as regional repositories for church records, both Presbyterian and Congregational (the church later changed its denomination) and can find no other copy of these records.

Eventually the records will be published for purchase. "My intent now is to have printed copies available to everyone who is interested, both typed and photo copied," he says.

As for the book itself, he is looking for a safe home. He has contacted both the Presbyterian archives in Philadelphia and the Congregational archives in Boston to see if either will guarantee to preserve it.

He doesn't believe primary church records should be in private hands.

Meanwhile he continues to speak on the subject of preserving church records and often acting as a clearing house. People with leads on the existence of such records often contact him and he continues to develop techniques for tracking them down.

His plea: if you find church records in a flea market or antique store, please purchase them and donate them to a repository even if they have nothing to do with your family.

Bob Rowe is a man who takes his own advice.

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1993 Spring Meeting Programs
-- Lowell E. Salyards (If questions, call "Ozzie.")

The Rochester Genealogical Society will continue to meet the third Thursday of each month (except December, July, and August) at Asbury First United Methodist church in Fellowship Hall. Asbury is located at 1050 East Avenue (just west of (hanger Place) with ample parking and handicapped facilities including ramp, two wheel chairs and an elevator to Fellowship Hall. The mini-workshops start at 7 pm (except as noted for special programs) followed by the business meeting at 7:30 pm and the main program at approximately 8 pm.

Visitors are very welcome

Thursday 22 April 1993

Note: This is the fourth Thursday of April Joint Meeting with the Kodak Genealogical Society
Location: Asbury First United Methodist Church

7:30 pm: Short Business Meetings by both organizations.

8:00 pm: "Palatines and Their Related history" Our guest speaker for the evening will he Violet Fallone, County Historian of Montgomery County. In addition, Violet has had several other positions, including the Director of the Genealogical and History Research library and Archivist in Montgomery County. She is well-known to several of our members.

Following the program of the evening, there will be a reception so we can greet/meet one another.

Thursday 20 May 1903

Mini-Workshop: Using the 1920 Census at Rundel library" Member Jim Ault will explain a "finding aid" that he created for use with the Rochester area census.

Main Program: "All Things Bright and Beautiful" Christopher Bensch, Curator of Furnishings, The Strong Museum will present a Slide-Lecture on how lighting changed for our ancestors from candles to kerosene, to gas lighting, and finally to electricity.

Thursday 17 June 1993

Annual Picnic: Kodak's Photo CD followed by Picnic at Henrietta Memorial Park

Main Program, 5:30pm: Demonstration and Explanation of Kodak's new Photo CD System. This will take place at Kodak's Marketing Education Center on East River Rd.

Picnic, 7:00 pm: At the Stevens Shelter, Henrietta Memorial Park, Calkins Rd, just west of the County Fairgrounds. This is a "do it yourself, bring your own 'fixins'"affair.

Asbury First United Methodist Church
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Picnic Map

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The President's Message
-- Ruth H. Metzler
"Swan Song"

It has been a pleasure to serve as your President for the last four years. Our membership has doubled during this time, and as new members meet continuing members (by modem, correspondence or in person) common ancestral interests are discovered, friendships formed and it is "worth it all."

Another satisfaction derives from just being a part of the team effort of RGS officers and chairpersons -- all of them generous in the time they give, and congenial in the contacts necessitated by the job. Working together, we achieved Incorporation status for the Society in January 1991 (culminating work begun years before by hard-working officers). And in February 1993, we completed a Procedure Manual under our Director's guidance.

The Genesee Country Family File -- a computer file of our shared research -- was proposed in September 1989 by Dick Halsey #67. Bob Hesselberth #256 chaired a committee which structured it, our Board supported it, and it has grown phenomenally these four years. It contains names of persons who lived in, passed through leaving records, or died in our six-county area before 1920. There are now 11,700 records in it. Print-outs from it are handled by Dick Halsey, free to members.

A long-term plan of purchasing microfilm Census records, begun prior to 1989, reached completion in 1990, facilitated by Jim Roome #335. That year we completed the purchase of remaining NY counties (except NYC) of the 1910 Federal Census. This was presented to the Rochester Public Library, Local History Dept. Librarian, Wayne Arnold, with the 1860 Census Indexes for CT, NY, RI, and VT. In March 1992, we purchased the complete (including NYC) 1920 Federal Census for NY State and gave it to RPL. This gift provides the Rochester genealogical community with easy access to a major genealogical tool.

We have cooperated with some occasional special events in our area. In September 1989 and October 1990 Heritage Days at the Genesee Country Museum our Exhibit was presided over by Bob Gustafson #13, honoring his Finnish heritage in resplendent costume. Also, we were at the March 'Show' Biz Exhibits in 1991, 1992 and 1993 at the Irondequoit Mall; Loretta Welch #197 arranged our schedule to provide continuous coverage for the wide variety of exhibited members publications.

RGS supported a genealogical conference in July 1990 at the Riverside Convention Center by providing speakers, computer consultants and volunteers to assist in many vital areas. Out of this conference, which was planned by an out-of-town businessman, emerged a lasting benefit for RGS, thanks to Tish Welch #390 who had an Idea. She bought ten tape recordings of the conference speakers and donated them to us with the suggestion that members who were unable to attend the conference could hear then at home. As an outcome of Board discussion, Carter Livermore #474 responded with willingness to "look into the possibilities" of this new service. Result: a very successful tape-lending library which has generated positive feed-back from our members around the country. Carter reports that more than half of our now 62-tape library are in circulation most of the time.

Your President (Ruth Metzler #385) attended a meeting of presidents of New York State genealogical societies on 7 July 1990 for the purpose of exploring the ways of forming a state organization. A formative meeting was planned November 10-11 in Fulton which I attended; 21 people representing 12 NYS genealogical societies or genealogically-related libraries were there. The emerging state-wide network, now call New York State Council of Genealogical Organizations or NYSCOGO, meets twice a year. RGS was represented at Fonda in April and October 1991; at Binghamton in April and Syracuse in October 1992 by our Delegates Julie Steitz #25 and Carter Livermore. Julie is also a Trustee. Numerous RGS members have contributed their personal research publications for the Silent Auction or the Exhibit at these conferences. Carter and Julies faithfulness to this fledgling organization is much appreciated, for if it can "get off the ground", NYSCOGO could contribute to a much-needed genealogical communication break-through within our state.

We outgrew the facilities where we had met for ten years, and with the services of John Thirtle #461, located new ones into which we moved September 1991. They meet our needs very well; attendance now averages 100 or more at each meeting.

RGS members have made two out-of-town research trips as a group. In November 1991, we went to Washington DC and in March 1993 to Albany. These bus trips not only resulted in some spectacular finds in the national and state collections, they created new friendships.

A Computer Interest Group was proposed in February 1991 for members who use their personal computers in genealogical activities. Under Jim Hall's #381 leadership, this spin-off group formed with 37 persons and soon established their mutual interests and needs. They have grown to 65 members, meet monthly, have a Newsletter, and programs relating to hardware and software options/usage/relative advantages. A disk-lending library has been created as of September 1992 with Debbie Barnes #726 in charge. In February 1993, the CIG presented an excellent main program to the Society, updating us on the world of computers and genealogy.

WXXI, Rochester's PBS radio station has given us publicity opportunities. Twice, Paul Baker has called upon RGS for panelists on his Talk Show, and twice RGS members responded. In June 1990, in anticipation of the July 5-7 conference, Paul discussed "Why Genealogy" on air with Phyllis Hackleman #656, Bob Rowe #790 and Larry Naukam #149. Again in October 1992, in observance of NYS Archives Week, he included Stanley Ames #524 in a panel discussing the importance of preservation of archival material to genealogists.

Through conferences, exhibits, meeting and Talk Shows, it has been a pleasure to work for you, and with you, for by working together, we have gotten to know each other. Over my shoulder, I can see my study -- books piled high, accumulated correspondence -- waiting. And, who knows? The next new RGS member who comes to Rochester searching for family may be your distant cousin -- or mine. (There must be someone else who is searching for that elusive Militia man of Lebanon CT, Elias Fitch, who trekked into NYS after the Revolution, leaving his marriage record somewhere in Connecticut.)

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RGS News

RGS Coordinates Resources

"Where Can I Find That?"

Having difficulty locating genealogical supplies and services? Ever wonder where to write for books and materials? Where can you find storage and archival material?

RGS meetings are a good place to start. In addition to an "up for grabs" table of flyers and advertisements we now maintain binders of catalogs and supply lists. This service to our society was started last year by one of our members.

Located each month at the "Membership" Table you may examine a large spectrum of catalogs from suppliers of genealogical supplies and materials and publishers of books of interest to genealogists. Additionally, we have added a binder of catalogs from many suppliers of storage and archival materials to aid in organizing and preserving your genealogical and family materials.

Lists of names and addresses of the suppliers are available at RGS meetings.

"Where Can I Learn About Genealogy?

Throughout the year there are several genealogical course offerings in and around the Rochester area. How can you find out what is available? There are two basic ways.

First, you could contact the Continuing Education department of all the local school districts, colleges, and other institutions such as museums, etc. and try to get on their mailing lists. Then you could search all those publications, if you get them, for applicable courses.

Or, you could attend your RGS meetings where a summary listing is kept up to data on a month to month basis and made available to member.

Anyone wishing information about the Genealogical Course Offering list may contact RGS member, James Swarts at 716 473-3042 or drop him a note at 39 Willard Ave, Rochester NY 14620. Please enclose a SASE. Or check with Jim at the monthly meeting.

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The Computer Interest Group
-- James A. Hall

The CIG continued meeting in the Winter Season, with special programs related to computers and genealogy. One meeting included the discussion of the use of modems for connecting to local and national bulletin boards, with the assistance form the system operator of the local bulletin board specializing in genealogy. Another session described the process in using a "null modem" or connecting cable used to connect two adjacent computers for file transfer.

Several members are associated with the new Family History Center of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Ed Gaulin prepared a discussion of the features of the FHC Library, at the new facility, including the computers for accessing the CD-ROM based Ancestral File, use of another computer for Personal Ancestral File software, the LDS Library catalog and fiche availability.

The CIG prepared the presentation for the February RGS meeting, and the response was satisfying to all. The regular CIG meetings continue to be held at the East Irondequoit Library, with attendance of 30-35 members and guests. The membership had grown to 62, and these members receive the notes from the meetings, and lots of hand-outs at meetings to make us aware of advances in the use of computers in genealogy.

The future meetings will focus on organizing the preparation of a database related to publishing records for a local project related to burial records and other projects selected by the membership. Additional topics will discuss new or upgraded genealogy software, and access to resources available by computer.

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Additions to the Tape Library

Twelve new tapes are being added to the RGS tape lending library, bringing the total to 62 tapes. Members may borrow any tape for one month free of charge. Members who borrow tapes at meetings deposit $1.00 per tape which is returned when the tape is returned. Members may request any tape by mail by including $2.00 for postage and handling.

Mail requests should be addressed to the RGS address in care of Carter Livermore. Lists of the earlier topics have appeared in previous newsletters and in hand outs at meetings. The new topics being added are:

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Records from the "Western Luminary"

Marriage and Death Notices from the "Western Luminary," a weeldy Universalist newspaper published in Rochester NY; Vols. 1, 3, and 4 (1842, 1844, 1845). This material is from a microfilm copy at the Andover - Harvard Theological Library, Cambridge MA. and a partial bound edition of v. 1 in the Rochester Public Library. Marriages are given in the order of their appearance and deaths are listed alphabetically. Entries are followed by the date of publication. Compiled and contributed by Karen E. Dau #605, 54 Starling St. Rochester NY 14613-2261.

Orleans County, NY (Vols. 3 and 4)
MARRIAGES

DEATHS

Readers should be aware that some of the dates given may refer to funerals rather than to actual dates of deaths.

Livingston County
MARRIAGES

DEATHS

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NYSCOGO and State News
Vital Records Index Search Service

Julie Steitz #25, RGS Delegate to and Trustee of the New York State Council of Genealogical Organizations reports that due in part to the efforts of the two NYSCOGO members on the SARA (State Archives and Records Administration) Board, who have steadfastly pushed for this to materialize, the New York State Archives has announced a Vital Records Index Search Service.

The New York State Archives has instituted a new vital records index search service. Genealogists and other researchers can now request a search of the State Department of Health microfiche indexes to vital records. The indexes cover the entire state (except New York City, and Albany, Buffalo, and Yonkers prior to 1914). The indexes now available span the years 1880/81 - 1943 for marriages and deaths, and 1881-1918 for births. The indexes are transferred to the Archives after 75 years for births, and after 50 years for marriages and deaths.

The Department of Health vital records indexes contain summary data on millions of vital events in the Empire State, and are an invaluable tool for genealogical research. The indexes refer to the full birth, marriage, and death certificates, which are retained by the Department of Health. Original registers of births, marriages, and deaths are in custody of the local registrars of vital statistics. The indexes between the 1880s and the 1920s sometimes lack data that may be found in the records maintained by local registrars.

Researchers may request the New York State Archives to search one vital records index (birth, marriage, or death) for one name for up to three specific years. The request must be made on a Vital Records Index Search Request form. Copies of the request form are available from the New York State Archives. Each request must be accompanied by a check or money order for $5.00 (US funds). Applicants requesting a search of the birth or marriage indexes must a sign a statement that the individual named in the request is now deceased.

The State Archives response to a search request will indicate date, place, and Department of Health certificate number for each event found in the index. Multiple events for the name searched will be indicated on the response, as will findings of no events. (There will be no refunds for unsuccessful searches.)

The State Archives holds no original birth, marriage, and death records. Abstracts of birth, marriage, and death certificates for genealogical research are available, for a fee, from the local registrar of vital statistics; or from the New York State Department of Health (for events outside NYC) or the New York City Municipal Archives (for events in New York City).

The microfiche indexes are available for public use Monday through Friday 9:00 - 5:00 in the State Archives research room, located in the Cultural Education Center (11th floor) in downtown Albany. For further information, contact the New York State Archives at 518 474-8955.

Or write to: New York State Archives, Cultural Education Center 11D40, Albany NY 12230.

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The New York State Newspaper Project
-- Carter Livermore #474

Many old newspapers, especially those printed on poor quality wood pulp paper that was used from 1870 to 1950, are fragile and have not been microfilmed. There is a state-wide project that is searching out those newspapers and will be making them available to us first as inventories showing location, and later many will be microfilmed.

The New York State Newspaper Project is part of the United States Newspaper Program which is funded by the National Endowment for the Humanities.

In our state, the New York State Library is coordinating the project, as well as management and quality control of the inventory, cataloguing an preservation. The nine NYS Reference and Research Library Resources Systems are the geographical areas chosen as the basis for the successive or concurrent projects.

The search and inventory of the old newspapers in our state began in the Capital District and Rochester regions in March 1987 and is planned to conclude in the New York City region in 2000. The projects inventory with location of the early newspapers in the Rochester area is now in a data bank accessible at any library served by the OCLC network.

Not every newspaper will be microfilmed. There will be considerations based on the physical condition of the collection, the research value and the geographic coverage of the title. It will probably be several years before microfilming will be done in the Rochester area. At that time the master negative film produced will be stored in the New York State Archives and Records Administration Records Center in Albany and positive films made from the master negative will be made available to us at local libraries.

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Queries and Things
DUNHAM/PEET: Wish to correspond with others researching Silas Dunham (1786-1860) and Lucy Miranda Peet (1796-?) who resided in Monroe County NY. Silas was born in Dutchess Co NY and Lucy was born in Connecticut. Their children were Lorenzo A. (married Ruth Miller); Luna Miranda (married Richard Van Deusen); Carlos; and Ansel.

Marilyn Lane #548, 201 Flynn Avenue #3, Mountain View CA 94043-3940

DARLING, SKINNER, INGERSOLL, PRESTON, COOK: Wm Mandeville named Nancy w/o Wm Darling,Rachel Ann w/o Horace Skinner, Elizabeth w/o Ellery Ingersoll, Bethia w/o Alvah Preston, Margaret w/o Thos Cook in his will, c. 1850. Need information regarding Jane Vosburgh, the mother of these girls. She died in Webster, c. 1828 and is buried in Webster Rural Cemetery.

C. Fletcher Bishop Jr. #800, 22310 County Road #455, Howey-in-the-Hills FL 34737

FARRELL: REWARD $100 for documented information on who was and what happened to the "Bernard Farrell, shoemaker, 123 S Ford St" in the Rochester City Directory of 1909. I know about Anna, John E., Thomas & wife Bessie Farrell and sister Catherine McGreal... their mother, Barbara, died Macedon, Wayne Co & father, Barnard, died at Fairport in 1890. Did Bernard turn into my father, Jack Farrell, who joined the US Army at Fort Lawton WA in 1924???

Terry Farrell #756, Rt 2 Box 50, Strasburg VA 22657

WOOD: $500.00 REWARD to the first person providing proof of par. of Aaron Wood, who d. 24 Feb 1812, at Manlius, Onondaga Co NY, m. 10 Jan 1770, at Easton, Fairfield Co., CT, Dorothea Mead, b. 26 Apr 1749 at Wilton, Fairfield Co CF (dau. of Thaddeus & Rebecca (Betts) Mead), d. 01 Oct 1831 at Lockport, Niagara Co NY, ch. of this marriage, (all born in Berkshire Co MA, with the exception of Homer): Thaddeus, b. 09 Mar 1772; Benjamin, b. 15 Apr 1774; Jasper, b. 19 Jan 1776; Rebecca, b. 06 Aug 1778; Dorothy, b. 17 Dec 1780; Aaron, Jr. bp. 13 Apr 1790; Homer, b. 20 May 1793. $500.00 Reward will be paid to the first person who furnishes irrefutable proof of the par. of the above named Aaron Wood.

Ted D. Merrill, 800 State Line Drive, Chaparral NM 88021.

RANDALL/GRANGER: Requesting information on John Randall who according to the 1904 Calhoun County Michigan Biographical Review was born in Bridgewater, Oneida County NY and moved to Sweden Township, Monroe Co NY where he married Lucinda Granger and five children were born. In 1842 they moved to Michigan. Trying to make a connection between John Randall and William Randall born in 1609.

Also seeking data on his wife who came from Suffield CT with her parents prior to 1815. Was it Eli Granger who erected a cabin at Hanford Landing in 1796/97 or John Granger who had a drug store in Rochester in 1816; Zadoc Granger who also arrived in Rochester in 1795/96; or Gideon Granger, all of whom were brothers from Suffield?

More detailed information is available in the correspondence file.

Randall H. Lindgren, 6415 S.E. 24th Street, Mercer Island WA 98040

Editors Note:

About Bulk Mail

If you haven't notice, the Hear Ye is now being mailed Bulk Rate in an effort to save RGS money. Bulk Rate does take a little longer to mail, but should not take any longer than 10 days. If there is a problem please notify us.

Also please notify the membership chairperson if you have moved. Because Bulk Mail is not forwarded if will cost RGS the price of a first class stamp for the Post Office to notify us of your new address.

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New Irish Newsletter Offers Genealogy Connection

Rochesters Irish community is the focus of the areas newest publication, the Irish Insider, a monthly newsletter featuring news about local Irish organizations, cultural activities and special events.

Of particular interest to genealogy buffs is "Family Ties," a regular column which invites readers to submit their requests for information regarding the surnames they are researching. These requests are then published in the monthly column, so that readers may contact each other with information.

The Insider also publishes readers news of personal achievements, trips to Ireland, and a comprehensive calendar of events listing Irish entertainment, theatre productions, dance exhibitions, mectings, and cultural events.

The Irish Insider is available by subscription for $15/year, or $1.25 per copy at selected retail outlets. For more information about the Irish Insider or to submit a request for genealogical information through the "Family Ties" column, write P.O. Box 90387, Rochester NY 14609, or call 716 482-2843.

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