Hear Ye Volume 21; Number 3
Fall 2000

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President's Message

The Rochester Genealogical Society is now entering its 62nd year. Let's make it a good one!

Although most of our Officers and Activity Chairs continue from 1999 - 2000, there are a few newcomers, whom it is my pleasure to introduce to you.

Larry Schongar is taking over from Gilbert Tremain Smith the big job of Vice President for Program. He's off to a great start; just take a look (inside) at the fine line-up of speakers for September, October, and November. Nonetheless, I am sure Larry would like to hear your suggestions concerning possible future programs.

Anne Schaetzke is replacing Scott Chase as Publications Committee Chair. Her experience as a librarian in Local History and Genealogy at the Rochester Public Library (Rundel) will come in handy in her new post with us. Anne also recently joined the Education Committee.

Gregory Spacher is our new Family History Center Liaison, taking the reins from Sharleen Peck. Greg had already replaced Sharleen as the local LDS Stake Family History Consultant. He will be keeping us abreast of developments in the Family History Centers at Westfall Road, Kreag Road, and in Brockport.

As some of you are already aware, Greg recently became a celebrity. His efforts to trace his paternal line were featured on the August 5, 2000, episode of "Ancestors" on WXXI television, the local PBS affiliate. Greg was shown at the Family History Center on Westfall Road using church records to locate his great3 grandparents in Lorraine in northeastern France. To top it off, there were additional scenes of Greg's joyful visit with long-lost cousins in the ancestral village itself, where Greg learned of even more distant forbears.

Fortunately for us, Greg will be sharing these experiences with us as the main speaker in our October meeting. As I understand it, he will be relating stories about the filming of the "Ancestors" program as well as genealogical research both in the Family History Center and in France.

At its meeting July 29, the Board voted to proceed with Volume III of the Mount Hope Cemetery Project. Jim Paprocki has devised a neat idea for computerizing the records, namely, by uploading them onto a website. If we can get the "bugs" out, at least some of you will be able to do this from your home computers. Quite likely, RGS will join forces with the Friends of Mount Hope. We will keep you informed about this ongoing, worthwhile Project.

There is still, however, some unfinished work to do on Volume II. At last count, approximately eight packets of data remained to be proofread at the Westfall Road Family History Center. If you put your name on the "sign-up" list, either Dr. Gale Smith or I myself will soon be contacting you about this "mopping up" activity. Please let us know, if, somehow, you were missed the first time around, and you are now willing to help out.

As was the case last year, we are indebted to Cal Graziano for the superb, extraordinarily professional, audit that he recently conducted of our Society's banking, investing, and bookkeeping.

All of the Society's Officers and Activity Chairs pledge ourselves to be of service to you in any way possible. Please keep in touch.

Larry Lee Blackman

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Fall Meeting Programs
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The Rochester Genealogical Society meets monthly except in December, July and August on the third Thursday in the Fellowship Hall of Asbury United Methodist Church, 1050 East Avenue, Rochester, New York. The meeting starts at 7 PM with a half-hour mini-workshop followed by a short business meeting and a refreshment break before an hour-long main program. Except for the joint meeting with Kodak in April, we have arranged for a full slate of main speakers for the program year 2000-2001. We still need speakers for some of the mini-workshop presentations. If you have any suggestions, please call Larry Schongar at 716-226-3462. The speakers for the first three meetings, September through November, are detailed below.


21 September 2000
Mini-workshop Amy Lacefield, "Historical research using the Rochester Images database." Amy is the project technician for the Rochester Images project.
Main program Diane Snyder Ptak, "Chasing Elusive Women: A Historian's Guide" Diane is a Certified Lineage Specialist, and an accomplished writer and speaker. Her specialty is locating elusive men and women throughout time and spanning the globe. As in any endeavor, there are techniques that can be used to make a task easier. Locating elusive women before 1930 is easy once you know the critical resources that can provide that data. Diane will provide strategies and sources that will motivate and quickly provide new direction for locating your most elusive women.

Diane will be bringing a selection of her books and articles for a book sale. In order give her an idea of how many copies to bring, please contact Larry Schongar by September 10th if you are interested in a book listed below. Include your name and the title(s). The titles and prices (plus tax) include:

  • Chasing Elusive Women: A Historian's Guide ($19)
  • Cast in Stone: Selected Albany, Rensselar and Saratoga County Burials ($36)
  • A Passage in Time: The Ships that Brought Our Ancestors ($19); supplement ($4)
  • A Compilation of American and Canadian Passenger/Emigration Registers ($19); supplement ($12)
  • Lost and Found: Albany (NY) Area Church and Synagogue Vital Record Compendium, 1654-1925 ($19); supplement ($12)
  • Surnames: Their Meanings and Origins ($19)
  • Surnames: Determining Origins with Biographical and Ethnic References ($19)
  • The American Loyalists: Origins and Nominal Lists ($19)
  • [More] The American Loyalists: Origins and Nominal Lists ($18)

19 October 2000
Mini-workshop Patricia Uttaro, "Genealogy Resources Available at the Ogden Farmers' Library." Pat is Director of the library and serves as an advisor to the Western Monroe Genealogical Society. The library is developing its collection with a special emphasis on families and history of western Monroe and Ontario counties.
Main Program Greg Spacher, "Lines to France." Greg is an accomplished genealogical researcher. He is featured in the new PBS series Ancestors and has just been called as the Family History Consultant for the Rochester Stake of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Originally Greg thought his roots went to Germany. As a result of his research, he found that they went to France. His presentation will feature his French research.


16 November 2000
Mini-workshop Stuart Bolger, "The Genesee Country Village and Museum." Stuart is the Director Emeritus of the Museum where he has served since 1966. The museum allows a visitor to experience life in a country village of the mid- 1800's.
Main program Richard J. Collins, MD, "Log Cabin to Managed Care: 200 Years of Medical Care in Livingston County." Dr. Collins and his father were both physicians in Avon. He is a Life Trustee of the University of Rochester and was Chairman of the Board of Managers for Strong Memorial Hospital. He has been active in the Republican party serving as county chairman and as a member of the state committee's executive committee.

Interestingly, Avon was founded by a doctor, Timothy Hosmer, in 1790. In the mid-1800s there were a number of clinics and spas run by doctors. This small country village has been greatly influenced by the physicians who lived within its borders.

For the year 2001, here is a brief preview of the first three speakers. In January, E. Regina Stewart, Director of the Westfall Road Family History Center, will talk on what a first time visitor might expect to find. In February, Paul Blake, RGS Vice President for the Computer Interest Group, will discuss selecting a computer and a software program for genealogy. March features Steve Clarke reviewing documentation.

We welcome your suggestions and look forward to seeing you at the meetings.

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Membership Corner
It is nearing the time to take care of renewing dues. We started the new budget year on 1 July and there are many members needing to send in the money to help us continue operating and to keep the members aware of our Program plans.

Some members have asked for a prominent reminder of the dues schedule. It is as follows:

Regular annual Society Membership is still $15.00 for U.S. addresses. Canadian members must increase this to $20.00 ( to cover increased postage & packing). All Canadian memberships for RGS and the CIG must be in U.S. funds drawn on a U.S. bank.

Computer Interest Group dues are an additional $5.00 for U.S. addresses, and $8.00 for Canadian addresses. CIG membership is open to Society members only.

The dues can be paid around 1 July, and must be paid by 31 October for the membership to be included in the annual Membership List of 1 December, published with the Winter issue of Hear Ye Hear Ye. Memberships received after 31 October will be credited for the current membership year, but the members address and phone number will not be published until the Spring issue of Hear Ye Hear Ye.

Memberships for multiple years are appreciated, as are donations.

A PLEAse to the Snowbirds: This will be the last chance to remind you to send us a change of address for the Winter season. Resending the Winter issue of Hear Ye Hear Ye gets to be quite an expense for the return postage and then remailing, besides delaying delivery up to a month. We hope you enjoy the Holiday Season and look forward to your return ( and a change of address card ) in the Spring.

James Alden Hall, Membership Secretary.

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The following article first appeared in the June 2000 issue of The Virginia Genealogical Society Newsletter.

War of the Rebellion: A Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies

by Lowell ("Ozzie") Salyards

Introduction
In 1995, the University of Michigan/Ann Arbor and Cornell University in Ithaca, New York started a joint project called THE MAKING OF AMERICA (The MOA). This project was funded by the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation. Its goal was to put on the Internet publications, primarily 19th century, dealing with various social, religious and historical topics. This past year, Cornell scanned the entire contents of War of the Rebellion: A compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies (the OR).

What is the OR?
The Preface for the Series tells us that by an act approved June 23, 1874, Congress made an appropriation "to enable the Secretary of War to begin the publication of the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion, both of the Union and Confederate Armies." These would include "all reports, letters, telegrams, and general orders." The result was 70 volumes divided among four series. At that time, 10,000 sets were printed and these have been available in various public, private and academic libraries. It was reprinted a number of years ago. In more recent years, it was released on a CD. With Cornell's use of The MOA, it is now available on the Internet. More details about the series can be found in the Preface, its access being described below.

Why Use the OR?
First of all, the OR does not, in general, contain rosters of troops. The individuals that are mentioned are the different officers sending various communications to subordinate and superior officers. If some private showed great valor in some battle, then he may be mentioned. There are lists of winners of the Medal of Honor which would include such people. If one is interested in some particular military unit, then one can follow that unit through the war. After a battle, the frontline officer sent a summary of his unit's participation, win or lose, to his commanding officer.

Local OR Access
There are two sets of OR available in the Rochester area:
1. Rush Rhees Library at U of R
2. History/Travel Division of the Rochester Public Library

How to Use the OR:
Indexes do exist for the OR: each volume has its own index and then the final volume, Series IV, No. 4, has a comprehensive or General Index for the entire set and this is where one begins.

1. Log onto the MOA website:

2. This brings up Cornell's collection in The MOA. Scroll down to the end of the listings and click onto the OR listed there. Note that the previous listing is for the OR for the navies.

3. You will see some options for doing Searches. You will use these later. Go to the next section entitled Browse and scroll down to the last entry, Series IV, No. 4, and click on it.

4. This will bring up some options for "Go To" and click on the Table of Contents. Later, you may want to view some of the other options.

5. You will note that the upper part of the screen has some operational options. Bring the Table of Contents into view on the lower part of the screen with the side bar on the right. Several choices are available. A first time user should read the Explanations and probably scan the Synopsis of Contents of Volumes sections. Note that the Preface is not listed but is found by entering the Roman numeral iii in the "Go to Page #" box at the top. It describes the generation of the Series and the contents of each Series of volumes. Finally, after getting oriented with the Explanations, Preface and Synopsis sections, one can then go the General Index which is 1087 pages long. Click on it and read the introductory material there.

Hints on Finding a Subject:
There are two ways of finding a subject, using the Search options and "fishing" in the General Index. If one is looking for an individual person, then the Search option is a place to start. Go to the upper part of the screen and bring the bottom of the image into view with the side bar. There you will see the subject of "Browse." Click on it and this will bring you back to Step 3 above. Scroll down to the Search section and click on "simple search." Enter the name of the individual of interest, surname first and then given name, in the box and click the "Submit" box. This will give a list of volume(s) that the person appears in. You then look in each volume's index. It can be difficult to look for a military unit this way as you may not know the exact listing.

This brings you back to using the General Index. Note in the Table of Contents how long an index is. Then make estimates of where your subject is listed by inserting page numbers in the box at the top. State military units will be listed under that state's name while national units will be listed under United States Colored Troops (p983ff), United States Regulars (p986ff) and Confederate Troops (p196). Once you find your subject in the General Index, it will show a Series number and a Volume number. If the volume has more than one part, you may have to look in each one until you find your subject listed with appropriate page numbers for that volume. The Search method described above does show the part number. This is not an easy set of volumes to navigate around in but it becomes easier with some practice.

Other MOA Material:
The University of Michigan has some items in their contribution to The MOA in which some readers may be interested. Their listing is accessed by logging onto this address: http://www.hti.umich.edu/m/moagrp/

For example, they have scanned some 19th century issues of the Southern Literary Messenger and the Southern Quarterly Review. In Volume 2, Issue 2 (Feb. 1857) of this latter one, there is a 23 page article on John Randolph of Roanoke.

As noted above, the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Navies are available also.

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Genetic Genealogy at BYU

In March a new project was started to collect both genetic samples and a four generation family group sheet for research purposes. Dr. Scott Woodward of the molecular biology department of the Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah has already collected about 2500 blood samples from people with ancestors from around the world. He hopes is to collect 100,000 samples. That includes collecting data at genealogy conventions like the FGS Convention that was held in Salt Lake City; September 6 - 9. By having a large sample, the hopes are to show how the world's population is related. The family group sheets will help track where each person's ancestors came from. This will help to show how genetics factors have influence various parts of the world's population.

Dr. Woodward discovered a genetic marker that led to the discovery of the gene for cystic fibrosis. This program is even more ambitious and it has a multimillion dollar budget. DNA from the blood samples is used to show similarities in people with ancestors from the same part of the world. It may eventually lead to showing how all humans are biologically connected.

NGS Regional Conference

The National Genealogical Society is holding a one day conference in Albany, NY on the 11th of November. One speaker at this conference will be Cyndi Howells known to all genealogist that frequent the Internet as the person behind Cyndi's List of Genealogy. The other speaker is Sheila Benedict is a Certified Genealogical Record Specialist and a full-time genealogical and historical researcher.

The program is:

9:00-10:00 A.M. - Howells - E-mail: How to Communicate Easily and Effectively with the World
Benedict - The Importance of Collateral Research

10:30-11:30 A.M. Howells - The World Wide Web; Quit Surfing and Start Researching
Benedict - Learn to Love Maps, County Histories, and City Directories

11:45 A.M.-1:15 P.M. Luncheon

1:30-2:30 P.M. - Howells - Evaluating Web Sites
Benedict - Newspaper Research Beyond Obituaries

3:00-4:00 P.M. - Howells - The Internet for Genealogy: A Twelve-Site Program
Benedict - Collecting, Recording, and Evaluating Data

The conference will be held at the Albany Holiday Inn, 205 Wolf Road, Albany. Registration is from 8 to 9 A.M. The price of the conference is $40 for members of NGS and $50 for non-members. Luncheon is $11.95 and features Chicken Divan. To register call NGS at (800) 473-0060 or write them at: 4527 17th St., North, Arlington, VA 22207.

Conference attendees may register at the special hotel rate of $98 per night single/double (plus tax). To reserve a room, contact the hotel at (518) 458-7250.

Native American Heritage?

Ruth Metzger would like to correspond with any RGS member who has documented a Native American, born in NY State, in their family tree. Write to her at: 235 Belcoda Dr., Rochester, NY 14617.

Talk on the Erie Canal

The Western Monroe County Genealogical Society is having a presentation by Donovan Shilling on the Erie Canal. This talk will be held at Ogden Farmers' Library, Ogden Center Road, Spencerport at 1:30 p.m. on September 20th.

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FGS Delegates Report

by Roy Thurston

As you know, the Rochester Genealogical Society is a member of the Federation of Genealogical Societies, a confederation of more than 525 societies in the United states and Canada, uniting the collective voices over 500,000 genealogists and local historians. One benefit to you, as a member of the Rochester Genealogical Society, is that you are entitled to a subscription to it's quarterly magazine, "FORUM" at the discounted price of only $11.00 per year.

Forum has the most complete "Calendar of Events" of any genealogical magazine. A typical issue shows as many as 50 different seminars and lectures being held throughout the United States and Canada. a handy "Calandar of Events by State" allows you to pinpoint which events are being held in your area.

The column "State Reporting," lists many activities of various genealogical societies and other groups that might advance your research. The "Records Access" column describes the status of accessibility of information by state. Other regular columns appear for family associations, ethnic/ international, book reviews and news briefs. If work of a particular society is unusually significant, its efforts appear in the "Society Spotlight" column.

Subscribe now!

Subscription to FGS FORUM is $11.00 for one year, $19.00 for two years, or $27.00 for three years.

Make payable to FGS FORUM, and mail to:
FGS Business Office
FORUM Subscription Dept.
P.O. Box 200940
Austin, TX 78720-0940

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Standards For Using Records Repositories and Libraries

Recommended by the National Genealogical Society

Recognizing that how they use unique original records and fragile publications will affect other users, both current and future, family history researchers habitually -

© 1997 by National Genealogical Society; includes material © 1995 by Joy Reisinger, CGRSSM. Both copyright owners grant permission to copy or publish these standards, provided they are reproduced in their entirety, including this notice.

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Standards For Use Of Technology In Genealogical Research

Recommended by the National Genealogical Society

Mindful that computers are tools, genealogists take full responsibility for their work, and therefore they -

© 1997 by National Genealogical Society. Permission is granted to copy or publish this material provided it is reproduced in its entirety, including this notice.

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Queries and Things
Seeking info such as births, marriages, deaths, land grants, wills, or deeds concerning the following: Asa WHITE, b. 1796, Rochester, NY; Electa Slayton WHITE, b. 1797, Chester, MA; their son George WHITE, b. 1822, Potsdam, NY.

From: Garnett E. Hughes (b. 1910!); 19655 Salt Lick Way; Monument, CO 80132.


My great-aunt, Lillian Gertrude O'MARA, lived in Rochester, NY and d. there 2/27/1962. I don't know if ever she married and had a married surname. In contacting several Rochester area cemeteries, I have not found her. (Holy Sepulchre Cemetery has a Lillian RICHARDSON who d. on 2/27/1962.) I do have a mass card for my Lillian from the N.J. Miller Funeral Home. Any info will be appreciated.

From: Robert O'Mara; 7735 Highway27, R.R. #2; Thornton, Ontario; LOL 2NO; CANADA.


Inquiring re Esther WARNER from Rochester, NY. She m. William EDLEY 9/15/1873. D.H. Muller, Pastor First U.E. Church, officiated. We have photos taken by Kent Photographers, 58 State St., Rochester, NY. Esther went to live in England, her husband's home.

From: Miss L. J. Hamilton; 8 Pengwern Av.; Deane; Bolton; BL3 4HA; ENGLAND.


I'm a new RGS member researching my maternal HAYES family who lived in the Rochester area. Information and suggestions would be appreciated.

From: Carol S. Owings; 16163 S.E. 33rd Circle; Bellevue, WA 98008.


Seeking information on the GREEN family of Rochester, NY. Eliza GREEN Williams Brown Daggett was b. 9 Jan. 1851, dau. of Philip & Ann GREEN. Eliza's first husband Silas G. Williams was from NY and fought in the Civil War. Sister Sarah E. GREEN was b. 8 Feb. 1844, m. Newell C. Fulton, & d. 26 May 1926. Husband Newell was a clerk at the Rochester Supreme Court 1888-1890. Also, I have much documentation to share about the SUTLIFF(E) family from England to Mass. to Conn. to Minn.

From: Deborah J. Williams; 3248 Hickory Dr.; Orion, MI 48359.


I'm researching the Henry PEASE GRISWOLD family of Rochester, NY. He was a Doctor of Dentistry, resided on Weld St., m. Belle S., and d. in 1906. They are bur. in Mt. Hope. Their dau. m. Charles KIRK. In 1906, she lived in VA. When was she born & what was her given name?

From: David R. G. McLoughlin; 6540 West Avenida Del Rey; Glendale, AZ 85310.


Have interesting info on famly of: Benjamin BROWN, b. 11/29/1795 Nova Scotia, Canada; d. 7/13/1840 Parma, Monroe Co., NY. Benjamin m. 9/6/1818 Jane STICKNEY in (?)Chestertown, Essex Co., NY. Jane was b. 3/25/1796 in Concord, NH and d. 8/11/1878 in Penfield, Monroe Co., NY. Jane is buried in Parma Union Cemetery, Parma, NY. The couple had seven children. Six survived to marry.

From: Joyce M. McConaha; 48 Wines Way; Stevensville, Montana 59870.

Trying to locate grave of Nicholas McKENNA. He was b. in Co. Louth, Ire. ca. 1822 & m. in N.Y.C. Mary CASSIDY, (b. Co. Louth, Ire. ca. 1826). They moved to a farm in Mumford, Monroe Co. & raised children John, Katherine, Philip, & triplets (Mary Jane, Nicholas, & -----). Nicholas, Sr. d. on the farm 1/15/1876 & was buried there next to his infant child. Another record states Nicholas, Sr. d. in Rochester, NY. Desire more info on this Monroe Co. family & will share substantial info on N.Y.C. McKENNAS.

From: Elizabeth M. Wrocklage; 55 Dora Av.; Waldwick, NJ 07463.


Seeking info on Frederick GELDER, b. in London 1861; m. 1883 Mary WILLIS in Rochester, NY; d. 1908; buried in Mt. Hope Cemetery, Rochester, NY. Need info about Frederick's immigration, naturalization, and parents' identity.

From: Jean Gelder; 21144 Aberdeen Rd.; Rocky River, OH 44116.


Need Rochester, NY documentation for Grandfather Dr. Eedwin [sic] G.H. BECK. He practiced medicine In Rochester, NY ca. 1903 -1932, retired, moved to Atlanta, GA, & d. 1943. I've tried unsuccessfully to obtain info from the AMA & some church records.

From: Chris Beck; 10363 Choctaw Dr.; Indianapolis, IN 46234-1090.


Help! Trying to trace our two Rochester, NY families. SELDEN Family: Roxanna (Mrs. Jack FRASER); Ezra; Henry Rogers S.; & Samuel Lee S. Sam's son d. young ca. 1854-1858 & is buried in Mt. Hope Cemetery. We think Sam lived at 230 Grove St., Rochester, NY in the 1860's. We have more SELDEN names, but they also lack documentation.

BELLAMY Family: Maria BELLAMY m. (1) Cyrus McCLUSKY & (2) Cyrus HUBBELL. Thought to live in Rochester, NY. John Alden BELLAMY lived in Rochester, NY ca. 1859. Other BELLAMY names also lack documention. Apparently from 1800's.

From: James B. Partridge; 1924 26th Av., NW; Rochester, MN 55901-8064.


I'm a new R.G.S. member searching for my Monroe Co. roots. For reasons unknown, Grandfather LINE left New York ca. 1900.

From: Debbie L. White; 1149 Lectric Lane; Zanesville, OH 43701.


I'm a Calif. RGS member researching Great-grandfather OLDS, a farmer in Greece. He's in the 1850 & 1860 federal census. He came from Mass., but the town and county are unknown!

From: Edward W. Olds at: edolds@pacbell.net


Need b., m., & d. documents for my LANGWORTHY family. Olive LANGWORTHY was dau.of Harvey Peter LANGWORTHY (Rochester, NY 11/1/1835). He was son of Wm. Andrews LANGWORTHY (New Lebanon, 9/14/1790).

From: Christie Vernon Kitchin; 205 Lindsay Landing; Yorktown, VA 23692.

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RGS Officers and Activity Chairs

RGS Officers and Activity Chairs through June 31, 2001

President: Larry Lee Blackman
Vice President, Program: Larry Schongar
Vice President, Computer Interest Group: Paul Blake
Recording Secretary: Robert Coomber
Corresponding Secretary: Diane Graziano
Membership Secretary: James A. Hall
Treasurer: Patricia Southcombe
Historian/Genealogist: Ken Veneron
Past President: Roy Thurston Education Committee: Lowell E. Salyards
Hospitality Committee: Romayne Kline

Other Society Liaison: Gilbert T. Smith
Reception Committee: Julie Steitz and Mary Gerew
DAR Liaison: Dorothy Bailey
SAR Liaison: Larry Blackman
Family History Center Liaison: Gregory Spacher
NYSCOGO Liaison: Ruth Metzler
Publications Committee: Anne Schaetzke
Publicity Committee: Robert Wambach
Tape Library: R. Carter Livermore
Book Distribution: Warren Fishbaugh
Hear Ye Editor: Richard Halsey

Hear Ye, Hear Ye is published four times a year, in Spring (March), Summer (June), Autumn (September) and Winter (December).

Hear Ye, Hear Ye is mailed Bulk Rate. Bulk Rate does take a little longer to mail, but should not take any longer than 10 days. If there is a problem please notify us.

Please notify the membership chairperson if you have moved. Because Bulk Rate is not forwarded, it will cost RGS the price of a first class stamp for the Post Office to notify us of your new address.

Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrgs/

RGS Telephone (585) 234-2584

Meeting cancellation because of inclement weather will be announced on WHAM 1180 AM.

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